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O: cdbs -- common build system for Debian packages

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Bastian Germann <bage@debian.org>

Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 14:03:02 UTC

Severity: normal

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Bug#1026085; Package wnpp. (Wed, 14 Dec 2022 14:03:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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From: Bastian Germann <bage@debian.org>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: O: cdbs -- common build system for Debian packages
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 15:00:02 +0100
Package: wnpp
X-Debbugs-Cc: dr@jones.dk, foka@debian.org, Duck@DuckCorp.org, remi.thebault@gmail.com, kamathvasudev@gmail.com

A year ago, the last active cdbs maintainer Jonas decided to cease further cdbs development.
The other Uploaders have been quiet for years but I have copied them on this email.
I am orphaning cdbs. @foka @js @duck Would you please move the cdbs repository to salsa's debian namespace?
The gnulib and licensecheck packages already have new git homes.

I suggest to create a lintian warning tag for cdbs-using packages so that they know that their build system is no longer 
developed.

If you do not agree with orphaning, please pick up development again.



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Bug#1026085; Package wnpp. (Wed, 14 Dec 2022 14:27:02 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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Message #10 received at 1026085@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk>
To: 1026085@bugs.debian.org,
Subject: Re: Bug#1026085: O: cdbs -- common build system for Debian packages
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 15:25:51 +0100
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Quoting Bastian Germann (2022-12-14 15:00:02)
> Package: wnpp
> X-Debbugs-Cc: dr@jones.dk, foka@debian.org, Duck@DuckCorp.org, remi.thebault@gmail.com, kamathvasudev@gmail.com
> 
> A year ago, the last active cdbs maintainer Jonas decided to cease further cdbs development.
> The other Uploaders have been quiet for years but I have copied them on this email.
> I am orphaning cdbs. @foka @js @duck Would you please move the cdbs repository to salsa's debian namespace?
> The gnulib and licensecheck packages already have new git homes.
> 
> I suggest to create a lintian warning tag for cdbs-using packages so that they know that their build system is no longer 
> developed.

I welcome both this orphaning and the suggestion for a lintian warning
to discourage the continued use of CDBS.

Formally I have stepped down as maintainer of CDBS, so will leave it to
the existing maintainers to formally move the git repo (or not, if for
some reason they choose another way forward).

Just one detail: Other packages are mentioned, and I guess that's
because they reside(d) in same salsa section as cdbs.  I agree that
gnulib has moved on (and is now orphaned as well, as I recall), but
licensecheck still has a home (for *upstream* development) at
https://salsa.debian.org/build-common-team/licensecheck.git - regardless
of also having another home (for *packaging* maintenance) at
https://salsa.debian.org/perl-team/modules/packages/licensecheck.git

So please do *not* mess with licensecheck - or other git repos in the
salsa section "build-common-team".


 - Jonas

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Bug#1026085; Package wnpp. (Wed, 14 Dec 2022 16:30:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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Message #15 received at 1026085@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marc Dequènes (duck) <duck@duckcorp.org>
To: Bastian Germann <bage@debian.org>, 1026085@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#1026085: O: cdbs -- common build system for Debian packages
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 01:19:04 +0900
Quack,

On 2022-12-14 23:00, Bastian Germann wrote:

> I am orphaning cdbs. @foka @js @duck Would you please move the cdbs
> repository to salsa's debian namespace?

DH made so much progress that we all left :-).
Jonas needed it for some packages and maintained it as long as he could.
We did discuss the situation a few years back but no real 
plan/announcement followed unfortunately.

I moved the repo to the Debian namespace.
I also archived the cdbs-doc repo; the package is not build anymore 
anyway.

> The gnulib and licensecheck packages already have new git homes.

I archives their repo.

> I suggest to create a lintian warning tag for cdbs-using packages so
> that they know that their build system is no longer developed.

That's a good idea. I'll try to work on this.

\_o<

-- 
Marc Dequènes



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Bug#1026085; Package wnpp. (Wed, 14 Dec 2022 16:33:07 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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Message #20 received at 1026085@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Bastian Germann <bage@debian.org>
To: duck@duckcorp.org, 1026085@bugs.debian.org, Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk>
Subject: Re: Bug#1026085: O: cdbs -- common build system for Debian packages
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 17:29:25 +0100
Am 14.12.22 um 17:19 schrieb Marc Dequènes (duck):
>> The gnulib and licensecheck packages already have new git homes.
> 
> I archives their repo.

I am sorry that I mentioned them. Jonas asked to leave licensecheck alone.



Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#1026085; Package wnpp. (Wed, 14 Dec 2022 17:33:01 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk>:
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Message #25 received at 1026085@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk>
To: 1026085@bugs.debian.org, Bastian Germann <bage@debian.org>, duck@duckcorp.org
Subject: Re: Bug#1026085: O: cdbs -- common build system for Debian packages
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 18:29:30 +0100
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Quoting Bastian Germann (2022-12-14 17:29:25)
> Am 14.12.22 um 17:19 schrieb Marc Dequènes (duck):
> >> The gnulib and licensecheck packages already have new git homes.
> > 
> > I archives their repo.
> 
> I am sorry that I mentioned them. Jonas asked to leave licensecheck alone.

No problem - I moved licensecheck back again now.

- Jonas

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