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December 22, 2010

This article was contributed by Nathan Willis

In November I wrote about the apparent demise of the well-known mail delivery agent procmail, which has not been updated since 2001, but is still routinely packaged by Linux distributions. Whatever your feelings about procmail itself, the story prompted a discussion in the comment threads that we revisit periodically as a community: what exactly does it mean for a free or open source project to die anyway?

There is no one "right answer;" the context of the project, its governance, user community, and the opinion of the debaters make for a wide spectrum of definitions. The process of single-vendor project shutting down can instantaneously switch off source code access, online documentation, and mailing lists. More often, the tools and trappings of a project atrophy one at a time; the documentation wiki slips behind the current release, the milestones never make it past "alpha" announcements on the mailing list and onto the Downloads page, and the user forum slowly transforms into a refugee camp where abandoned users help each other patch and shoehorn the aging code into compatibility with newer system libraries.

In most cases, however, the code itself is still available — somewhere. But if we look back at the projects that did close up shop during 2010, it is clear that the source availability factor alone is not always sufficient to regard a project still among the living. In the end, what makes a free software project dead comes down to practical questions. When was the last release? Are there any support plans for businesses? Is there reliable user-to-user support? Is there support for new developers wishing to leverage the code?

For all practical purposes, there are degrees of mortality to be considered. The owner of the code can walk away, shut down the resources, and fire the developers. Projects that meet that fate have little hope unless an entirely new team revives the work from scratch. But almost as serious is when the project owner or leadership pulls all of the developers and puts them on some successor project — however legitimate the ordination is, there is always a risk that the successor project will never see the light of day, and users cannot make the jump until it does.

In any event, it is the end of the year, which puts many of us in a reflective frame of mind, so taking stock of the wreckage from the past twelve months can be illuminating — both with regard to how open source projects die, and the different directions events can take afterward.

The dead and buried

The easiest casualties to identify are those marked by a corporate owner's official press release or a project's clear statement of discontinuation. A few common factors precede many of these cases — generally predictable ones like lack of consumer adoption or legal woes; risks every project endures on a daily basis.

Easily the most high-profile FOSS project to get the axe this year was Google's real-time collaborative editor Wave. Despite a highly-publicized fall 2009 launch, the subsequent releases of much of the code, and worldwide Wave developer events, the search behemoth pulled the plug in August 2010. For reasons that still baffle me (although the "highly-publicized" part is no doubt a key ingredient), this decision was met with sheer joy from many in the technology press, and outright celebration ensued in some darker quarters. The fact that many of those rejoicing continued to describe Wave as an "instant messaging" tool — which it was not — points to poor product management and muddled marketing as critical mistakes on Google's part.

The same blunders may have stricken the Open Source Applications Foundation (OSAF)'s Chandler, a cross-platform email-and-calendaring application, although its end was not nearly as widely observed. The last announced release was made in July of 2009, although commits trickled in until the end of the year, and while the user and developer mailing lists survive, they now consist solely of requests for install-time help. Despite a well-funded benefactor underwriting its development, the project never achieved a fraction of the mindshare enjoyed by Mozilla Thunderbird (and its Lightning calendar add-on), which itself remains a minority player. I'd be willing to wager less than half of the people who read this paragraph knew what Chandler was, much less had tried it.

In contrast, Linux on the PlayStation 3 met a quick demise in 2010, and it was big news. While the firmware that allowed installing Linux wasn't free software itself, of course, it did allow booting the device with a user-installed OS, and was supported by several Linux distributions. It was such big news because PS3's corporate parent, Sony, knifed the project intentionally, publicly, and without remorse. Citing "security concerns", Sony pushed an April firmware update out to PS3s that disabled the "Other OS" feature the devices had supported since their launch in 2006. Rumors were that fear of Blu-Ray piracy enabled through PS3 hacking were the "concern" in question, although no such exploits were ever published.

A peculiar footnote to the PS3 Linux obituary was Sony's sudden announcement of an OpenStep-based application development framework it named SNAP, which was quickly followed by Sony's sudden announcement that SNAP was canceled. The stated idea was to create an open development framework for Apple's iOS, thus prying the tightly-closed lid off of the iPad/iPhone platform to allow in fresh rays of freedom. Considering that the dream of an open homebrew-development community was the initial justification for allowing Other OS on the PS3, SNAP's brief moment in the sun is probably no big surprise.

The LimeWire peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing tool was scuttled in October, a move dictated by court order. Sources "close to the company" told PCMag that the application will be reborn as a "copyright-friendly service". Because the court order prevents LimeWire from distributing a client capable of uploading or downloading from the Gnutella P2P network, though, there is little chance that the open source "LimeWire Basic" version of the client will return at all.

Not all project terminations were the result of corporate mismanagement or copyright paranoia, however. Linux's HAL hardware abstraction layer, for example, is officially deprecated in favor of udev. Although this transition has been planned since 2008, both that year and 2009 continued to see additional HAL point releases. As of 2010, the major desktop distributions have migrated away from HAL, although several individual applications still pull it in as a dependency. HAL may continue to receive security patches, but its active life is essentially over.

The lost

Speaking of patches and active lives, several large projects fell into the awkward "dead but still claiming lots of users" category, which poses its own unique set of challenges.

Consider the Moblin and Maemo siblings, for example. Intel's netbook distribution and Nokia's handset distribution were welded together into the brand-new MeeGo initiative in February of 2010, which bodes well for the future of the code itself. But both of the parent projects targeted embedded (or at least, non-standard-hardware) devices. Consumers who purchased an N900 phone from Nokia might be miffed to learn that there will be no MeeGo release for the device.The daring can boot MeeGo builds on the N900 from an SD card, but they do so at their own risk.

OpenSolaris was just one of many Sun projects acquired by the proprietary database vendor Oracle, and although several of the others (Java, OpenOffice, and MySQL) have had their fair share of headaches and battles since the acquisition, OpenSolaris is the only one to be scrapped outright. A leaked Oracle memo announced the move in September, under which upcoming "Solaris 11" releases might be available through a "technology partner program", but the open source version marches straight for the grave.

In November, the Symbian Foundation met an unceremonious end when majority stakeholder Nokia announced that it would re-absorb the Symbian unit and shut down all of the Foundation's web assets. Those assets disappeared on December 17th, though Nokia reportedly still employs the Symbian development team. Officially, Symbian will remain open source software, and what was the Symbian Foundation will morph into a "licensing body" — but the actual source code will disappear entirely sometime in March. One would be excused for thinking that that doesn't sound particularly open source; anyone who needs the code is encouraged to drop an email to contact@symbian.org — a friendly offer, but not one that alleviates fears of abandonment.

The gone but not forgotten

Sometimes, of course, a corporate parent can cut a project loose, and the project can continue to survive or even grow. Such was the case for Etherpad, the web-based collaborative editor acquired by Google in 2009. Google opened up the code right after the acquisition, but snuffed out the service in May of 2010. Prior to the switch-off date, several replacement services sprouted up based on the Etherpad source code — Pirate Pad, PrimaryPad, OpenEtherpad, and more.

In addition to straight derivatives, the existence of forks sometimes makes it hard to determine when to declare a project dead, but at least one project is a plausible candidate in 2010.

The PHP-based content management system (CMS) Mambo suffered an acrimonious leadership battle in 2005 that led to the departure of the bulk of the developers, who started the Joomla CMS. As is often the case is such a fork, the remaining owners of the Mambo trademark and source code copyrights asserted that nothing was wrong and that development would continue unabated. Although that may have been true for a while, here at the end of 2010 it has been a full calendar year since there were any signs of life from Mambo (longer still since there was a release), apart from the occasional Twitter alert that the project's servers had been attacked. Joomla, on the other hand, seems fine.

The great unknowns

The final category is made up of those projects that have disappeared or show no signs of life, but which, for one odd reason or another, are impossible to outright pronounce them as dead.

Take Xandros, for example. The commercial Linux distribution has not made a release since 2007, although it has acquired a handful of other companies since then, which indicates that capital is not the problem. One of those acquisitions was even fellow distribution Linspire, which has also failed to make a release since 2007. It's not clear whether or not the distribution is dead, though the company itself still exists and sells support contracts for existing Xandros Linux users. The company does have other products, but also it went all of 2010 without making a press release. Any new products the company may be developing is being done behind closed doors

Snort also has a corporate parent that continues to do business, but the tool itself still faces uncertainty. Some in security circles worry that the popular intrusion detection system is on life support if not actually terminal. The reason is that the long-discussed 3.0 rewrite, in planning since 2007, still has yet to appear. The project continued to make incremental updates to the existing version of Snort in 2010, but that apparently was not good enough to satisfy the US government, which paid to have a Snort replacement written.

Raindrop was a combined-messaging inbox system developed by Mozilla Labs, and offered an unusual combination of features: merging email, instant messages, and microblogging discussions into a single stream, and intelligently filtering one-to-one, group, and automated messages. Despite optimistic beginnings, the project quietly stopped receiving updates in late spring, and the mailing lists fizzled. A Mozilla Labs developer told me in October that a Raindrop replacement would arrive "soon" ... but it never has.

The XUL-based cross platform media player Songbird did not shut down entirely in 2010, but it did drop all Linux support in April. Shortly thereafter, it looked as though things on the Linux front were going to be A-OK, when a group of contributors announced the Nightingale project that would pick up where Songbird left off. Eight months later, however, and there has still been no code released.

The caveats on these seemingly expired projects vary. One has to give a some leeway to Nightingale; starting a project from the ground floor but with a large, pre-existing codebase is never easy. With regard to Raindrop, Mozilla Labs is explicitly marketed as the experimental wing of the browser maker, where R&D happens, and actual projects come and go. Either project could still awaken from its slumber and lead a long, happy life. Snort 3.0 could drop tomorrow, of course; perhaps Uncle Sam is just impatient, and the 3.0 rewrite is close to perfection. Who knows what Xandros HQ could have up its sleeve; the ISO downloads are cryptically marked as "out of stock" so maybe it's as simple as a missing hard disk.

2010, we hardly knew ye

Looking back at the list of 2010's dearly departed, you see a snapshot of the open source ecosystem as a whole. Some projects, like Google Wave, Symbian, and Chandler, never found the user-base their creators were hoping for. Others, like LimeWire and PS3 Linux, were forced to walk the plank thanks to legal threats from the code-meets-commercial-media arena. Songbird and Xandros were both popular when they were available, but appear to have simply lost support among the people who write the paychecks at their respective companies (and who knows what happened to SNAP, but at the very least we can agree that "too much support among management" was not among its problems). Mambo got taken out by infighting between its leadership and core developers. If you looked at the active open source projects making the news today, you'd likely find the same kinds of problems.

What is interesting to note about 2010's obituary is that there was only one Oracle acquisition among the fallen. Despite the database company's dominance of the news cycle for lawsuits and anti-community practices, it did not actually succeed in killing that many open source projects. Whether that tells you something about the hype factor of the acquisition or the resilience of the free software community is anybody's guess.

The developers behind OpenIndiana, the community-driven replacement for OpenSolaris, would probably say the latter. That brings us to the other potential lesson from 2010: the number of open source projects that survived, in one form or another. Etherpad is positively flourishing, Joomla is more popular than ever now, MeeGo is growing and even expanding into new areas, and even the much-maligned Wave has been resurrected as an Apache project (presumably to the consternation of some members of the FOSS press).

Three years ago I looked at the projects that perished in 2007 for NewsForge. There were nine projects on that year's Big Sleep list, and although this is not an exact parallel (the 2007 article only covered projects I personally had written about during the preceding year), I can't help but notice that only one of them has survived in any form that I can identify today. There is reason to be hopeful about at least three or four of this year's victims.

The difference could be due to random variation, but it is also possible that the community has learned from experience. For example, there have been large-scale dump-the-code-over-the-wall releases in the past that did not work out as well as Etherpad; perhaps Etherpad's continued existence ought to make it a case study for other such "if the community wants it, the community can have it" divestments. It might not even be too late for some of this year's casualties, say, Raindrop and Symbian. Even though both of them have some prospect for survival, good intentions offer no guarantee either will still be here in 2011.


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wave is in a very interesting condition

Posted Dec 22, 2010 19:53 UTC (Wed) by dlang (guest, #313) [Link] (2 responses)

it's demise was announced, with a 'turn off by the end of 2010' date, but that has been extended (I think indefinitely), wave has applied to become a part of the apache foundation projects, and there are multiple companies with products shipping that incorporate wave.

the end result is still pending.

wave is in a very interesting condition

Posted Dec 22, 2010 21:09 UTC (Wed) by n8willis (subscriber, #43041) [Link] (1 responses)

Well, it's a truism with all of the "canceled" projects that the parents can change their mind at any time, but we should definitely make a clear distinction between the Wave protocol and the software implementation hosted & promoted by Google. Google never said that it was "unreleasing" the protocols and APIs (whatever that might mean). In any case, it made the list due to the public hoopla that surrounded the death knells. I personally am not among the haters; don't read Wave's inclusion that way -- it may be a while before its full impact is seen but I think it has some really interesting potential.

Nate

wave is in a very interesting condition

Posted Dec 22, 2010 21:25 UTC (Wed) by dlang (guest, #313) [Link]

as noted, if forks of a project survive, is that project really dead? or just shifted?

for example, when ethereal forked and all the developers started working on a project called 'wireshark' did the ethereal project die, or was it just renamed?

so with google stopping the wave project, but other people using the code and continuing to develop it, is wave dead or just undergoing reorganisation?

the drop in support from Google is a big inflection point, things will be very different now, but it's unclear what this really means. As a google project it's dead, but many of the same developers are working on the code still, so is wave really dead?

In Memoriam: the free software projects we lost in 2010

Posted Dec 22, 2010 21:17 UTC (Wed) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link] (5 responses)

Also add to this list: Unladen Swallow - it had stopped receiving updates since this summer (though it may be just resting, not dead).

Dead?

Posted Dec 22, 2010 22:16 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (guest, #15091) [Link]

It's probably pining for the fjords.

In Memoriam: the free software projects we lost in 2010

Posted Dec 22, 2010 23:44 UTC (Wed) by rasjidw (guest, #15913) [Link] (1 responses)

According to this thread, there are plans to merge it into CPython 3.3.

In Memoriam: the free software projects we lost in 2010

Posted Dec 23, 2010 10:37 UTC (Thu) by codefisher (guest, #64993) [Link]

Except Google pulled the devs so that any work in that direction has to be done by the community. Some parts of it have been merged, at least I have seen a few bugs on bugs.python.org about getting chunks in.

In any case I don't think dead really applies in this case, it was never supposed to live long by itself, just a temporary fork.

In Memoriam: the free software projects we lost in 2010

Posted Dec 23, 2010 1:42 UTC (Thu) by n8willis (subscriber, #43041) [Link]

Thanks for the comment -- I did entirely forget to add that anyone who knows of an overlooked project that rode off into the sunset during the year is welcome to add it in below....

Nate

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Posted Jan 29, 2011 11:14 UTC (Sat) by NikLi (guest, #66938) [Link]

For those of us who understand python VM, i can tell you that Unladen was a buzz project. Its goals ("Make Python 10 times faster in 2 years by using JIT", etc) were absurd to the level of insulting the "people who know" (what is "faster"?, in which application domain?). Of course media and the readers cannot see the absurdity of such claims and went along to propagate it and crapflood all the news sites; sorry but unladen swallow was a huge title with the goal to make a big attention to the media and draw attention from other interesting projects at the time.

We had hoped its failure to reach the stated goals would be its punishment, but apparently anything that's backed by lots of money never dies:)

Unfortunatelly, i can't explain to simple people why this is the fact with unladen swallow here, and i neither wish to do so since this would be a waste of my own resources. People who like big announcements ("We shall magically transform python to 100x faster through the use of Dynamic Adaptive Just Before Time Compilation methodologies, within the next 4 years -- yrs Google"), please feel free to do so!

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Posted Dec 23, 2010 3:07 UTC (Thu) by NicDumZ (guest, #65935) [Link] (1 responses)

Some will claim that it already belongs to the "dead and buried" category, but I nominate Mandriva for the "dead but still claiming lots of users" category.
Featuring "Mandriva is the leading European actor for cloud computing, development efforts will now take place in Brazil. Stay tuned." kind of announcement.

In Memoriam: the free software projects we lost in 2010

Posted Dec 23, 2010 5:03 UTC (Thu) by eru (subscriber, #2753) [Link]

Well, my home box running Mandriva 2010.1 still regularly receives security updates, so the lights are still on there. Next year will be decisive.

Getting the source code easily...

Posted Dec 23, 2010 12:03 UTC (Thu) by alex (subscriber, #1355) [Link] (2 responses)

One of the problems with projects that fizzle out is it can often leave contributors wondering what's happening. This is especially true if there is no public source control which people can track.

One of the tools I use all the time is EasyTag although it hasn't made a development release since 2008. People have submitted patches to the mailing list and via SourceForge. However the last sighting of the maintainer was back in February claiming no time to do active development but happy to take patches.

In some frustration I created a git mirror from the historical tarballs and got an initial flurry of interest. That soon fizzled out but I assume as the tool works people are happy as it is and if it breaks patches will be forthcoming. For the people that care there is at least a live version of HEAD. I guess the project won't be dead until the last user stops caring.

Getting the source code easily...

Posted Dec 23, 2010 17:32 UTC (Thu) by sorpigal (guest, #36106) [Link]

After its development petered out I maintained cdbakeoven for my own personal use, until it became too much of a pain and I broke down and adopted k3b. If git had existed at the time, or if any dvcs had been on my radar, I would have done something a lot like what you did.

I expect that the future of abandoned open source projects will look a lot like this. At some point the code gets posted to a neutral third party host and interested people keep it working until the last person stops caring.

IOW, It's getting harder to be sure a project's really dead.

Getting the source code easily...

Posted Dec 23, 2010 21:03 UTC (Thu) by cmccabe (guest, #60281) [Link]

I like easytag! Hope it keeps going in some form.

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Posted Dec 23, 2010 22:46 UTC (Thu) by felixrabe (guest, #50514) [Link]

Anyone remember XFree86? It might have died yesteryear already, as Wikipedia knows that the last commit was in 2009.

Chandler

Posted Dec 24, 2010 6:14 UTC (Fri) by jeremiah (subscriber, #1221) [Link] (3 responses)

I took a look at this project 2 ish years ago. They just weren't quite up to snuff. But I think their real problem is that google/google apps came along and stole their momentum. Chandler was designed as an exchange killer, but google seems to have done a better and quicker job. RMS's dislike of the 'cloud' aside, why bother hosting your own services if you don't really need to? I wonder if procmail kind of went this direction as well. How many folks are still hosting their own user email systems?

self hosting

Posted Dec 24, 2010 11:09 UTC (Fri) by alex (subscriber, #1355) [Link]

I still host my own email server and personal mailbox on my server. Of course all my mailing list email is forwarded to a GMail account (7.2gb and counting).

Chandler

Posted Dec 24, 2010 18:08 UTC (Fri) by dlang (guest, #313) [Link] (1 responses)

I'll bet that there are more people hosting their own mail today than there ever have been in the past.

at the same time, I'll bet that as a percentage of total users, fewer people are hosting their own mail today than ever

these are both even more the case if you consider a business as a person in the statements above.

besides, where do you think all the ISPs get the software to host the mail for their users? it's the same sources that individuals and businesses use.

Chandler

Posted Dec 24, 2010 18:58 UTC (Fri) by jeremiah (subscriber, #1221) [Link]

But how many of those ISP's include calendars, contacts etc. That whole Exchange setup? I've never compared Zimbra to procmail's functionality, but I'm sure it had a large impact on Chandler. I still think the majority of users out there use a major web service provider. I still send mail using my own services on my servers, but I viewed inbound as not worth my time any more. Whether security or spam related, it just became too much of a burden to keep up with, along with everything else. The less servers/services I have to maintain the better. No documentation to keep up with. No having to train juniors to do it, much less hire them just for that. A number of universities have switched to gmail. smaller schools which never had 'personalized domain' email to being with now been able to come online with gmail. The vast majority of litigant/ticket related email addresses we process are web service based. Personally I'm also partial to being able to take your email/address with you, so I've always tried to avoid the ISP provided email address. Too bad Netcraft doesn't track email servers.

In Memoriam: the free software projects we lost in 2010

Posted Dec 24, 2010 12:43 UTC (Fri) by kitsilano (guest, #14833) [Link]

Very interesting article. Somehow I missed the fade away of Songbird and Snort. And it is good to know about successors.
What about such an article in the following years?

Wave: FOSS?

Posted Dec 24, 2010 14:09 UTC (Fri) by stevem (subscriber, #1512) [Link]

I never considered it that way; it was just another web service from Google that never took off, surely?

dog(1), an enhanced replacement for cat(1)

Posted Dec 26, 2010 7:07 UTC (Sun) by fjorba (guest, #6175) [Link] (3 responses)

Another kind of death is when a large distribution (Debian) does not package anymore a piece like dog(1), that has long disappeared from upstream:

http://packages.debian.org/dog

I still like use it, and I don't know an alternative, unless it is merged with GNU cat(1).

dog(1), an enhanced replacement for cat(1)

Posted Dec 26, 2010 10:08 UTC (Sun) by jrn (subscriber, #64214) [Link] (2 responses)

See the removal request for details. For what it's worth, the package was orphaned for a year and I assume it would be quite acceptable for some interested person to revive it for wheezy.

dog(1), an enhanced replacement for cat(1)

Posted Dec 26, 2010 12:28 UTC (Sun) by fjorba (guest, #6175) [Link] (1 responses)

There are at least some other users of dog(1), as seen here: http://lwn.net/Articles/394548/. And yes, some tome ago I noticed the removal request and the orphaing note. As a non Debian devoper, but long time Debian user, could you plese explain the procedure to ask somebody to revive it?

reviving removed packages

Posted Dec 29, 2010 9:46 UTC (Wed) by jrn (subscriber, #64214) [Link]

I was hoping someone else would respond. :)

Requests to revive a package work just like any other request for a new package: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/#l1. Like this:

To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: RFP: dog -- Enhanced replacement for cat

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

The cat enhancement dog(1) is quite useful and not a big maintenance burden, so I would be happy to see it back in Debian. Version XXXXX from snapshot.debian.org works well for me.

That it is not a big maintenance burden would be especially believable if you promise to look out for bugs and fix them. If you have time for it, http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ and especially http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq have hints.

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Posted Dec 29, 2010 2:51 UTC (Wed) by joedrew (guest, #828) [Link]

Xandros is more-or-less dead as a company; they have been missing payroll for a while, and many/most of the developers have moved on.

Source: an ex-Xandros employee.

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Posted Jan 4, 2011 15:46 UTC (Tue) by pkalliok (guest, #63969) [Link] (1 responses)

What I find a very important distinction, and one this article quite completely misses, is whether it takes a great deal of effort to revive a project that has been abandoned by its community. A project is easy to revive if it still has its source code easily available, and the source code is in a condition that makes it easy to build; at that condition, anyone can pick a project and start using it - and usage often eventually leads to development.

In this way, there are _really_ many projects which are lingering, sleeping, or just waiting for something to come up. When was the last update to GNU m4? Does somebody wait for the next release of Knuth's implementation of TeX? Numerous small applications (I have in mind e.g. PikiPiki, the Python-based simple wiki implementation) just lie there, available on the web, but occasionally taken into use and built upon. Many projects never had much of a community, but still manage to be useful, indispensable even, for a group of users that know little about each other.

This "long lingering" is one possibility that IMHO really makes open source different from commercial products. *If* a company really can take a working product away, then its future is _always_ uncertain in a way that truly open source projects never face. *If* a product can be built upon by anyone that has the motivation to do so, it is really hard to kill it completely.

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Posted Jan 4, 2011 15:50 UTC (Tue) by pkalliok (guest, #63969) [Link]

It seems that GNU m4 has received updates in 2010; maybe GNU bc would be a better example.

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Posted Jan 6, 2011 13:12 UTC (Thu) by dneary (subscriber, #55185) [Link] (1 responses)

> Three years ago I looked at the projects that perished in 2007 for
> NewsForge. There were nine projects on that year's Big Sleep list, and
> although this is not an exact parallel (the 2007 article only covered
> projects I personally had written about during the preceding year), I
> can't help but notice that only one of them has survived in any form that
> I can identify today. There is reason to be hopeful about at least three
> or four of this year's victims.

On that 2007 list was the WengoPhone, which became QuteCom. While there have not been a huge number of releases, and the website is essentially unchanged from the launch, it is not the case that the project is dead.

In fairness, the QuteCom guys have made some releases (2.2 final was released in Jan 2010: http://www.qutecom.org/index.php?option=com_content&t...) and their Trac is still very active: http://trac.qutecom.org/ and their developer mailing list still gets a decent amount of traffic http://lists.qutecom.org/mailman/listinfo/qutecom-dev - in short, the project has gone into a long slow development process, but without much communication. Hopefully, I will have some time to help out over the coming months and help improve that situation.

Dave.

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Posted Jan 10, 2011 16:23 UTC (Mon) by n8willis (subscriber, #43041) [Link]

Ach. Thanks for the catch on QuteCom, Dave! Believe it or not, I just overlooked it ... even though I'm still on the mailing list. Perhaps that's due to the 'gray area' of the project that's reborn under a different name, with different hosting, and different developers. Certainly it was a while after the relaunch before QuteCom became stable enough to have confidence in its survival. It seems like the only Linux builds for the last few releases (including testing) have come from outsiders, which makes it easy to get behind on....

Nate

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Posted Jan 8, 2011 20:58 UTC (Sat) by adulau (guest, #1131) [Link] (2 responses)

Maybe a stupid idea but the Debian packages of procmail is already including more than 25 patches along with some security patches. Why not releasing a new version with those patches and announcing that one as being the updated version? A free software is a living organism and it makes sense to move to the living version.

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Posted Jan 19, 2011 19:26 UTC (Wed) by kreutzm (guest, #4700) [Link] (1 responses)

Well, as a maintainer of a package in a similar state I just find it sad that there is so little communication amongst distros for those packages, i.e. several distroy maintain "dead" packages, instead of sharing the load (and reaping the benefits from mutal patches).

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Posted Jan 20, 2011 3:53 UTC (Thu) by ccurtis (guest, #49713) [Link]

As I recall, RPM was in this boat for a while; now if that's not indicative of a problem ...

In Memoriam: the free software projects we lost in 2010

Posted Jan 16, 2011 8:16 UTC (Sun) by ssmith32 (subscriber, #72404) [Link]

One downside to thinking something is dead when it's not:

I once got the insane idea to implement a RPC in c++ that would let me construct a function call on-the-fly based on a spec coming from the client. Turns out you need to write little assembly routines to do this.

After some work building my own library, I found libffi, but it was hard to get to, hadn't been updated in 10 years, so I kept soldiering on with my solution. I checked the site a few months later, and discovered that after 10 years of no updates, the project suddenly woke up a little while after I checked, was re-packaged in an easy-to-use tarball, etc...

Could have saved a lot of time (and brain cells wasted on assembly :P), if I had more faith, and was more patient..

Btw, I just subscribed to lwn.net, and now it looks completely different - it took me 15 minutes to find this article again. Is there a way to log in, but have it "look like it did before" - except I can access the subscriber only content??


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